The Grizzlies’ Future, the Devers Trade, NBA Draft Takes, and a Kon Knueppel Interview | With Chris Vernon, Joe House, and Kevin Hench

Jun 18, 2025

Talk Time

Bill Simmons
57.1 min (40.4%)
Chris Vernon
34.3 min (24.3%)
Kon Knueppel
24.0 min (17%)
Kevin Hench
14.4 min (10.2%)
Joe House
11.6 min (8.2%)

Top Entities

1NBA
28
2NBA Draft
25
3Memphis Grizzlies
20
4Rafael Devers
19
5Desmond Bane
18
6Joe House
12
7Boston Red Sox
12
8Bill's Dad
10
9NBA Finals
9
10Ja Morant
8
11Oklahoma City Thunder
7
12MLB
7
13Indiana Pacers
7
14Stephen Curry
6
15Orlando Magic
6
16New York Knicks
6
17Mookie Betts
6
18LeBron James
6
19Houston Rockets
6
20Gambling
6
21Boston Celtics
6
22Ace Bailey
6
23San Francisco 49ers
5
24New Orleans Pelicans
5
25NBA Playoffs
5
26Jaren Jackson Jr.
5
27College Basketball
5
28Aaron Judge
5
29Utah Jazz
4
30Ryen Russillo
4
31Nikola Jokic
4
32New York Yankees
4
33Bill Simmons
4
34Zach Lowe
3
35Washington Wizards
3
36Triston Casas
3
37The Ringer
3
38The Rewatchables
3
39Taylor Jenkins
3
40NFL
3
41Milwaukee Bucks
3
42March Madness
3
43Los Angeles Rams
3
44Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
3
45Jaylen Brown
3
46Giannis Antetokounmpo
3
47Dylan Harper
3
48Doc Rivers
3
49Cooper Flagg
3
50Shohei Ohtani
2
51Russell Westbrook
2
52Phoenix Suns
2
53Payton Pritchard
2
54Paul George
2
55Nomar Garciaparra
2
56New York Giants
2
57NBA Free Agency
2
58Mike Conley
2
59Mikal Bridges
2
60Marcus Smart
2
61Los Angeles Dodgers
2
62LaMelo Ball
2
63Klay Thompson
2
64Kansas City Chiefs
2
65Jimmy Butler III
2
66Jalen Suggs
2
67Green Bay Packers
2
68Final Four
2
69DeMarcus Cousins
2
70Dallas Mavericks
2
71Brooklyn Nets
2
72All-Star
2
73Aaron Wiggins
2
74Zoe Simmons
1
75Zach Randolph
1
76Zach Edey
1
77World Series
1
78Tyrese Haliburton
1
79Trevor Story
1
80Toronto Raptors
1
81Toronto Blue Jays
1
82Tony Allen
1
83Tim Duncan
1
84The Sports Gal
1
85Tayshaun Prince
1
86Tari Eason
1
87T.J. McConnell
1
88Stetson Bennett
1
89Stephen A Smith
1
90Shaquille O'Neal
1
91Seattle Mariners
1
92Scottie Pippen
1
93Scott Foster
1
94Scotiabank Arena
1
95San Diego Padres
1
96San Antonio Spurs
1
97Sam Hauser
1
98Rudy Gobert
1
99Rookie of the Year
1
100Rodney Hood
1
101Rob Mahoney
1
102Ray Allen
1
103Rashee Rice
1
104Philadelphia 76ers
1
105Pau Gasol
1
106OG Anunoby
1
107Nick Collison
1
108New England Patriots
1
109Nate Lynn
1
110Mike Miller
1
111Miami Heat
1
112Mark Jackson
1
113Marc Gasol
1
114Manu Ginobili
1
115Luka Dončić
1
116Los Angeles Lakers
1
117Los Angeles Clippers
1
118Los Angeles Chargers
1
119Leonardo DiCaprio
1
120Lauri Markkanen
1
121Kyrie Irving
1
122Kristaps Porziņģis
1
123Karl-Anthony Towns
1
124Jrue Holiday
1
125Jordan Poole
1
126Jordan Hicks
1
127Johnny Davis
1
128Jerry West
1
129Jaylen Wells
1
130Jarren Duran
1
131James Harden
1
132Jamaree Caldwell
1
133Jalen Brunson
1
134Gonzaga Bulldogs
1
135Golden State Warriors
1
136Fred Warner
1
137Drew Gooden
1
138Drake Maye
1
139Drake London
1
140Derrick Rose
1
141Derek Lowe
1
142Defensive Player of the Year
1
143David Stern
1
144Darian Kinnard
1
145Damian Lillard
1
146Dallas Cowboys
1
147CJ McCollum
1
148Chicago Bulls
1
149Charlotte Hornets
1
150Caleb Williams
1
151Cade Cunningham
1
152C.J. Stroud
1
153Bub Carrington
1
154Brian Burns
1
155Brandon Miller
1
156Boxing
1
157Boogie Nights (film)
1
158Baltimore Ravens
1
159Babe Ruth
1
160Arizona Cardinals
1
161Andrew Nembhard
1
162Andrew Meyer
1
163Amar'e Stoudemire
1
164Alperen Sengun
1
165All-NBA Third Team
1
166Alex Sarr
1
167Alex Caruso
1
168Aaron Rodgers
1
169Jayson Tatum
1

League Distribution

NBA
160 (64.8%)
MLB
37 (15%)
NFL
29 (11.7%)
NCAAB
20 (8.1%)
Boxing
1 (0.4%)

Top Players

1Rafael Devers
19
2Desmond Bane
18
3Joe House
12
4Bill's Dad
10
5Ja Morant
8
6Stephen Curry
6
7Mookie Betts
6
8LeBron James
6
9Ace Bailey
6
10Jaren Jackson Jr.
5
11Aaron Judge
5
12Ryen Russillo
4
13Nikola Jokic
4
14Bill Simmons
4
15Zach Lowe
3
16Triston Casas
3
17Taylor Jenkins
3
18Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
3
19Jaylen Brown
3
20Giannis Antetokounmpo
3
21Dylan Harper
3
22Doc Rivers
3
23Cooper Flagg
3
24Shohei Ohtani
2
25Russell Westbrook
2
26Payton Pritchard
2
27Paul George
2
28Nomar Garciaparra
2
29Mike Conley
2
30Mikal Bridges
2
31Marcus Smart
2
32LaMelo Ball
2
33Klay Thompson
2
34Jimmy Butler III
2
35Jalen Suggs
2
36DeMarcus Cousins
2
37Aaron Wiggins
2
38Zoe Simmons
1
39Zach Randolph
1
40Zach Edey
1
41Tyrese Haliburton
1
42Trevor Story
1
43Tony Allen
1
44Tim Duncan
1
45The Sports Gal
1
46Tayshaun Prince
1
47Tari Eason
1
48T.J. McConnell
1
49Stetson Bennett
1
50Stephen A Smith
1
51Shaquille O'Neal
1
52Scottie Pippen
1
53Scott Foster
1
54Sam Hauser
1
55Rudy Gobert
1
56Rodney Hood
1
57Rob Mahoney
1
58Ray Allen
1
59Rashee Rice
1
60Pau Gasol
1
61OG Anunoby
1
62Nick Collison
1
63Nate Lynn
1
64Mike Miller
1
65Mark Jackson
1
66Marc Gasol
1
67Manu Ginobili
1
68Luka Dončić
1
69Leonardo DiCaprio
1
70Lauri Markkanen
1
71Kyrie Irving
1
72Kristaps Porziņģis
1
73Karl-Anthony Towns
1
74Jrue Holiday
1
75Jordan Poole
1
76Jordan Hicks
1
77Johnny Davis
1
78Jerry West
1
79Jaylen Wells
1
80Jarren Duran
1
81James Harden
1
82Jamaree Caldwell
1
83Jalen Brunson
1
84Fred Warner
1
85Drew Gooden
1
86Drake Maye
1
87Drake London
1
88Derrick Rose
1
89Derek Lowe
1
90David Stern
1
91Darian Kinnard
1
92Damian Lillard
1
93CJ McCollum
1
94Caleb Williams
1
95Cade Cunningham
1
96C.J. Stroud
1
97Bub Carrington
1
98Brian Burns
1
99Brandon Miller
1
100Babe Ruth
1
101Andrew Nembhard
1
102Andrew Meyer
1
103Amar'e Stoudemire
1
104Alperen Sengun
1
105Alex Sarr
1
106Alex Caruso
1
107Aaron Rodgers
1
108Jayson Tatum
1

Who Talked About What

Bill Simmons

1NBA
16
2NBA Draft
11
3Joe House
11
4Rafael Devers
10
5Boston Red Sox
8
6Indiana Pacers
7
7Memphis Grizzlies
6
8Boston Celtics
5
9Desmond Bane
4
10Washington Wizards
3
11Utah Jazz
3
12The Ringer
3
13Orlando Magic
3
14New Orleans Pelicans
3
15NBA Finals
3

Joe House

1Jaren Jackson Jr.
3
2Memphis Grizzlies
2
3Houston Rockets
2
4Desmond Bane
2
5Taylor Jenkins
1
6Ryen Russillo
1
7Oklahoma City Thunder
1
8NBA Draft
1
9March Madness
1
10Los Angeles Rams
1
11Los Angeles Lakers
1
12Jordan Poole
1
13Jaylen Wells
1
14Dallas Mavericks
1
15Dallas Cowboys
1

Chris Vernon

1Memphis Grizzlies
12
2Desmond Bane
12
3NBA Draft
9
4NBA
8
5Ja Morant
6
6Stephen Curry
3
7NBA Finals
3
8LeBron James
3
9Bill's Dad
3
10Taylor Jenkins
2
11Phoenix Suns
2
12Orlando Magic
2
13Oklahoma City Thunder
2
14Nikola Jokic
2
15New York Knicks
2

Kevin Hench

1Rafael Devers
9
2MLB
5
3Boston Red Sox
4
4San Francisco 49ers
3
5Mookie Betts
3
6Triston Casas
2
7Shohei Ohtani
2
8New York Yankees
2
9New York Knicks
2
10Los Angeles Dodgers
2
11Zach Lowe
1
12Toronto Blue Jays
1
13Seattle Mariners
1
14San Diego Padres
1
15Ray Allen
1

Kon Knueppel

1Bill's Dad
7
2NBA Draft
4
3NBA
4
4NBA Finals
3
5The Rewatchables
2
6Oklahoma City Thunder
2
7Milwaukee Bucks
2
8March Madness
2
9Green Bay Packers
2
10College Basketball
2
11Stetson Bennett
1
12Stephen Curry
1
13Scotiabank Arena
1
14Ryen Russillo
1
15Rudy Gobert
1
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