So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

Jan 13, 2026

Talk Time

Chuck Klosterman
65.4 min (49.1%)
Bill Simmons
57.4 min (43.2%)
Cousin Sal
10.3 min (7.7%)

Top Entities

1NFL
64
2NBA
24
3NBA Playoffs
19
4New England Patriots
18
5Pittsburgh Steelers
13
6MLB
12
7Gambling
11
8College Football
10
9Seattle Seahawks
9
10Houston Rockets
9
11Boxing
9
12Aaron Rodgers
9
13Tom Brady
7
14Super Bowl
7
15Bill Simmons
7
16Los Angeles Rams
6
17Caleb Williams
6
18Baltimore Ravens
6
19The Ringer
5
20Indiana Pacers
5
21Cousin Sal
5
22C.J. Stroud
5
23NHL
4
24Lamar Jackson
4
25Hunter Renfrow
4
26Charles Barkley
4
27Bill Russell
4
28Zoe Simmons
3
29Wilt Chamberlain
3
30Rob Gronkowski
3
31Los Angeles Chargers
3
32Jerry Rice
3
33Houston Texans
3
34Hall of Fame
3
35Final Four
3
36Chicago Bears
3
37Bill Belichick
3
38World Series
2
39Woody Marks
2
40The Sports Gal
2
41The Rewatchables
2
42Spike Lee
2
43San Francisco 49ers
2
44Roger Van Zandt
2
45Reggie Jackson
2
46Patrick Mahomes
2
47Nico Collins
2
48NFL Playoffs
2
49New York Knicks
2
50New York Giants
2
51Matthew Stafford
2
52Los Angeles Clippers
2
53Las Vegas Raiders
2
54Kevin Garnett
2
55Kansas City Chiefs
2
56Joel Embiid
2
57Jim Rice
2
58Green Bay Packers
2
59Drake Maye
2
60Denver Nuggets
2
61Dallas Mavericks
2
62Dallas Cowboys
2
63Buffalo Bills
2
64Babe Ruth
2
65Atlanta Falcons
2
66All-Star
2
67Will Campbell
1
68Wayne Gretzky
1
69Utah Jazz
1
70Tyson Bagent
1
71Toronto Raptors
1
72The Town (film)
1
73Tennessee Titans
1
74Stefon Diggs
1
75Shohei Ohtani
1
76Sean Fennessey
1
77Rocky (film)
1
78Robert Williams III
1
79Puka Nacua
1
80Portland Trail Blazers
1
81Philadelphia Eagles
1
82Philadelphia 76ers
1
83Peyton Manning
1
84O.J. Mayo
1
85New York Jets
1
86New Orleans Saints
1
87NBA Draft
1
88Nate Lynn
1
89Minnesota Timberwolves
1
90Michael Jordan
1
91Madison Square Garden
1
92Justin Herbert
1
93Josh Allen
1
94Joe Burrow
1
95Jimmy Butler III
1
96Jalen Hurts
1
97Jake Plummer
1
98Jack Wilson
1
99Indiana Hoosiers
1
100George Kittle
1
101Geno Smith
1
102Dwyane Wade
1
103Devin Booker
1
104Denzel Washington
1
105Denver Broncos
1
106Dante Trader Jr.
1
107Dak Prescott
1
108College Basketball
1
109Cleveland Cavaliers
1
110Cleveland Browns
1
111Christian Kirk
1
112Christian Gonzalez
1
113Brent Urban
1
114Boston Red Sox
1
115Boston Celtics
1
116Bobby Orr
1
117Atlanta Hawks
1
118Arizona Cardinals
1
119Anthony Davis
1
120Andy Reid
1
121All-NBA Third Team
1
122All-NBA Second Team
1
123All-NBA First Team
1

League Distribution

NFL
164 (56.2%)
NBA
83 (28.4%)
MLB
17 (5.8%)
CFB
10 (3.4%)
Boxing
9 (3.1%)
NCAAB
5 (1.7%)
NHL
4 (1.4%)

Top Players

1Aaron Rodgers
9
2Tom Brady
7
3Bill Simmons
7
4Caleb Williams
6
5Cousin Sal
5
6C.J. Stroud
5
7Lamar Jackson
4
8Hunter Renfrow
4
9Charles Barkley
4
10Bill Russell
4
11Zoe Simmons
3
12Wilt Chamberlain
3
13Rob Gronkowski
3
14Jerry Rice
3
15Bill Belichick
3
16Woody Marks
2
17The Sports Gal
2
18Spike Lee
2
19Roger Van Zandt
2
20Reggie Jackson
2
21Patrick Mahomes
2
22Nico Collins
2
23Matthew Stafford
2
24Kevin Garnett
2
25Joel Embiid
2
26Jim Rice
2
27Drake Maye
2
28Babe Ruth
2
29Will Campbell
1
30Wayne Gretzky
1
31Tyson Bagent
1
32Stefon Diggs
1
33Shohei Ohtani
1
34Sean Fennessey
1
35Robert Williams III
1
36Puka Nacua
1
37Peyton Manning
1
38O.J. Mayo
1
39Nate Lynn
1
40Michael Jordan
1
41Justin Herbert
1
42Josh Allen
1
43Joe Burrow
1
44Jimmy Butler III
1
45Jalen Hurts
1
46Jake Plummer
1
47Jack Wilson
1
48George Kittle
1
49Geno Smith
1
50Dwyane Wade
1
51Devin Booker
1
52Denzel Washington
1
53Dante Trader Jr.
1
54Dak Prescott
1
55Christian Kirk
1
56Christian Gonzalez
1
57Brent Urban
1
58Bobby Orr
1
59Anthony Davis
1
60Andy Reid
1

Who Talked About What

Bill Simmons

1NFL
26
2New England Patriots
17
3NBA Playoffs
12
4Pittsburgh Steelers
10
5NBA
10
6Houston Rockets
7
7Gambling
7
8MLB
6
9Boxing
6
10Aaron Rodgers
6
11Tom Brady
5
12The Ringer
4
13Cousin Sal
4
14College Football
4
15Charles Barkley
4

Cousin Sal

1NBA Playoffs
5
2Seattle Seahawks
3
3Caleb Williams
3
4Aaron Rodgers
3
5Pittsburgh Steelers
2
6Nico Collins
2
7NBA
2
8Lamar Jackson
2
9Houston Texans
2
10Gambling
2
11Chicago Bears
2
12C.J. Stroud
2
13Baltimore Ravens
2
14Woody Marks
1
15The Ringer
1

Chuck Klosterman

1NFL
38
2NBA
12
3MLB
6
4College Football
6
5Super Bowl
4
6Seattle Seahawks
3
7Indiana Pacers
3
8Boxing
3
9Bill Simmons
3
10World Series
2
11Wilt Chamberlain
2
12Tom Brady
2
13Spike Lee
2
14NHL
2
15NBA Playoffs
2
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